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		<title>By: Teltanara</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8746</link>
		<dc:creator>Teltanara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a huge RPer, but Viljo, my troll mage, outright refused to do the Kirin Tor torture quest at Amber Ledge.  That quest almost severed any desire he ever had to work with the Kirin Tor again.  His constant questing companion, a shaman, gave him so much shit about being a mage after the Kirin Tor&#039;s disgraceful behavior.  

That torture quest still makes him angry.  He is no stranger to death and killing, but the complete disdain that the Kirin Tor mage had for Viljo&#039;s honor was just too much.  (&quot;*I&#039;m* not allowed to torture, it&#039;s against the rules and morals I follow. But *you* can do the torturing.  *You* don&#039;t follow those morals...or any.&quot;)  Especially since if you&#039;ve done any other questing in that area, or even flown out of Warsong Hold once, you already know the location of the prison they are trying to find.

In general Viljo  tries to avoid more ethically dubious quests, especially from the Forsaken Apothecaries.  He has since he was a young troll sent to Undercity for magical studies.  However, I did cave in and have him do the leadups to Wrathgate.  If I&#039;d kept him strictly RP I would never have trusted the Apothecaries.  I only did that because I wanted to see the Wrathgate stuff. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a huge RPer, but Viljo, my troll mage, outright refused to do the Kirin Tor torture quest at Amber Ledge.  That quest almost severed any desire he ever had to work with the Kirin Tor again.  His constant questing companion, a shaman, gave him so much shit about being a mage after the Kirin Tor&#8217;s disgraceful behavior.  </p>
<p>That torture quest still makes him angry.  He is no stranger to death and killing, but the complete disdain that the Kirin Tor mage had for Viljo&#8217;s honor was just too much.  (&#8220;*I&#8217;m* not allowed to torture, it&#8217;s against the rules and morals I follow. But *you* can do the torturing.  *You* don&#8217;t follow those morals&#8230;or any.&#8221;)  Especially since if you&#8217;ve done any other questing in that area, or even flown out of Warsong Hold once, you already know the location of the prison they are trying to find.</p>
<p>In general Viljo  tries to avoid more ethically dubious quests, especially from the Forsaken Apothecaries.  He has since he was a young troll sent to Undercity for magical studies.  However, I did cave in and have him do the leadups to Wrathgate.  If I&#8217;d kept him strictly RP I would never have trusted the Apothecaries.  I only did that because I wanted to see the Wrathgate stuff. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Aleros</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8535</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the quests Aleros would not do ICly, however that does not mean he has not KILLED a lot.  Just somewhat ignored some of the more morally ambiguous ones despite being a Loremaster.  However it is acknowledged that sometimes he goes out and sates his feral tendencies.  I&#039;m still working on transitioning him from being a &quot;healer&quot; to being feral even though I&#039;ve been totally feral for 3 years now.

Xionn on the other hand, having lived just as long as Aleros most likely ICly does every single quest.  Why?  Well he spends his gold faster than he can acquire it and while he may not do something if the pay isn&#039;t right, he isn&#039;t going to turn a job down if it&#039;s FUN.  Fun to him involves spilling blood and having a monetary excuse to do so.  If a quest only offered experience, and was to help someone&#039;s dear grandmother carry a crate of supplies, he&#039;d not do it.  Decapitate 10 blokes for 10 gold?  Sounds good to him.  I made this character more than 10 years ago, and I keep trying to drop him but he keeps coming back.  He&#039;s the perfect Id.  He drinks, he smokes, he&#039;s a womanizer, a murderer, a thief and a bit of a politician when it comes to controlling people.

A little bit off the subject of those two, I&#039;m not sure how many of you played Lord of the Rings Online.  That game did quests really well.  I felt a justification for my character doing just about every quest, especially the starter quests.  Humans of Bree mostly dealt with orc incursions and evil humans.  In some of the later starting levels they dealt with the undead.  Dwarves on the other hand dealt with goblins a lot, but many of their actual leveling quests dealt with CRAFTING.  I&#039;m not talking about actualy player system crafting, but helping some guy find his crafting tools, or gathering materials or this and that.

Then Hobbiton.  Oh Hobbiton.  From levels 1-10 the only thing you ever killed were crop flies.  All of the starter Hobbiton quests were errand quests.  Deliver mail, deliver pies, help granny, brew beer.  Once you got up to level 13 or so you had to clear some spiders out of the Scary quarry, and then at level 15 you had to face your first real danger, goblins!  The quests in the game made it genuinely athentic, and I felt each of my characters had a reason for doing the various quests they were told to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the quests Aleros would not do ICly, however that does not mean he has not KILLED a lot.  Just somewhat ignored some of the more morally ambiguous ones despite being a Loremaster.  However it is acknowledged that sometimes he goes out and sates his feral tendencies.  I&#8217;m still working on transitioning him from being a &#8220;healer&#8221; to being feral even though I&#8217;ve been totally feral for 3 years now.</p>
<p>Xionn on the other hand, having lived just as long as Aleros most likely ICly does every single quest.  Why?  Well he spends his gold faster than he can acquire it and while he may not do something if the pay isn&#8217;t right, he isn&#8217;t going to turn a job down if it&#8217;s FUN.  Fun to him involves spilling blood and having a monetary excuse to do so.  If a quest only offered experience, and was to help someone&#8217;s dear grandmother carry a crate of supplies, he&#8217;d not do it.  Decapitate 10 blokes for 10 gold?  Sounds good to him.  I made this character more than 10 years ago, and I keep trying to drop him but he keeps coming back.  He&#8217;s the perfect Id.  He drinks, he smokes, he&#8217;s a womanizer, a murderer, a thief and a bit of a politician when it comes to controlling people.</p>
<p>A little bit off the subject of those two, I&#8217;m not sure how many of you played Lord of the Rings Online.  That game did quests really well.  I felt a justification for my character doing just about every quest, especially the starter quests.  Humans of Bree mostly dealt with orc incursions and evil humans.  In some of the later starting levels they dealt with the undead.  Dwarves on the other hand dealt with goblins a lot, but many of their actual leveling quests dealt with CRAFTING.  I&#8217;m not talking about actualy player system crafting, but helping some guy find his crafting tools, or gathering materials or this and that.</p>
<p>Then Hobbiton.  Oh Hobbiton.  From levels 1-10 the only thing you ever killed were crop flies.  All of the starter Hobbiton quests were errand quests.  Deliver mail, deliver pies, help granny, brew beer.  Once you got up to level 13 or so you had to clear some spiders out of the Scary quarry, and then at level 15 you had to face your first real danger, goblins!  The quests in the game made it genuinely athentic, and I felt each of my characters had a reason for doing the various quests they were told to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommacow</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8494</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommacow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rashona hasn&#039;t done the majority of the Forsaken quests in Howling Fjord, and never will; there&#039;s no way she&#039;d be plague-bombing living beings or lobbing bucketfuls of it onto clean earth.  The Amberledge mage, OTOH, was fair game because he was in service to someone she considered an enemy.  (Rashona is tolerant as all hell.  This doesn&#039;t necessarily equate to &lt;i&gt;nice&lt;/i&gt;.)  She did both that and the Scarlet torture quest with a fairly businesslike approach: get in, do an unpleasant job, get out.  

Rashona&#039;s my main and I do pretty much all my quests IC on her, so if she wouldn&#039;t do it, I don&#039;t take it on her.  Alts, I&#039;m a little more lenient on, but I&#039;ve played Rashona so long that it messes with my head to be terribly OOC on her.   Hell, she&#039;s barely even touched the Argent dailies, because I just can&#039;t get her to give a damn about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rashona hasn&#8217;t done the majority of the Forsaken quests in Howling Fjord, and never will; there&#8217;s no way she&#8217;d be plague-bombing living beings or lobbing bucketfuls of it onto clean earth.  The Amberledge mage, OTOH, was fair game because he was in service to someone she considered an enemy.  (Rashona is tolerant as all hell.  This doesn&#8217;t necessarily equate to <i>nice</i>.)  She did both that and the Scarlet torture quest with a fairly businesslike approach: get in, do an unpleasant job, get out.  </p>
<p>Rashona&#8217;s my main and I do pretty much all my quests IC on her, so if she wouldn&#8217;t do it, I don&#8217;t take it on her.  Alts, I&#8217;m a little more lenient on, but I&#8217;ve played Rashona so long that it messes with my head to be terribly OOC on her.   Hell, she&#8217;s barely even touched the Argent dailies, because I just can&#8217;t get her to give a damn about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bricu</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8465</link>
		<dc:creator>Bricu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bricu tortured the Amberledge mage.  He was with Tarquin at the time.  Then they turned the torture device on the Kirin Tor.  Then, Bricu, Tarquin and Ceil got into a fist fight.  It was a very hollow victory for Bricu...

Bricu has gone off and done most of the quests ICly.  He didn&#039;t chop down the trees for the Tourney, he didn&#039;t kill Scarlets for the Ebons and he doesnt&#039; do the daily PVP IC; however, he has brought back bounties, heads and tusks to less than savory people.  He&#039;s  been less-than-idealistic since launch, and I don&#039;t think that&#039;s going to change anytime soon.

He does struggle with quests, and it does take a toll on him; however, Bricu has a tendency to twist things back on his handlers.  Sooner or later, everyone is off their high horse--or their moral high ground--and at eye level to Bricu.

To quote Logen NineFingers, &quot;You just have to be realistic about these things.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bricu tortured the Amberledge mage.  He was with Tarquin at the time.  Then they turned the torture device on the Kirin Tor.  Then, Bricu, Tarquin and Ceil got into a fist fight.  It was a very hollow victory for Bricu&#8230;</p>
<p>Bricu has gone off and done most of the quests ICly.  He didn&#8217;t chop down the trees for the Tourney, he didn&#8217;t kill Scarlets for the Ebons and he doesnt&#8217; do the daily PVP IC; however, he has brought back bounties, heads and tusks to less than savory people.  He&#8217;s  been less-than-idealistic since launch, and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to change anytime soon.</p>
<p>He does struggle with quests, and it does take a toll on him; however, Bricu has a tendency to twist things back on his handlers.  Sooner or later, everyone is off their high horse&#8211;or their moral high ground&#8211;and at eye level to Bricu.</p>
<p>To quote Logen NineFingers, &#8220;You just have to be realistic about these things.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kelesaria</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8416</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelesaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Sarai said, that torture quest is a problem. Not only did Windstar not do it, my pally Arien refused to do it ICly as well. RP-wise, I wrote that my hunter Kelesaria came in as Arien was telling off the Kirin Tor dude, and Kel had Arien go wait outside while Kel did the dirty work. Because Kel has a hardened personality like that &gt;.&gt;
I&#039;m not sure if Tadrith would do it or not. He would not want to use torture, but he would see the need for getting the info from the prisoner ASAP. Guess I&#039;ll have to see when he gets there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Sarai said, that torture quest is a problem. Not only did Windstar not do it, my pally Arien refused to do it ICly as well. RP-wise, I wrote that my hunter Kelesaria came in as Arien was telling off the Kirin Tor dude, and Kel had Arien go wait outside while Kel did the dirty work. Because Kel has a hardened personality like that &gt;.&gt;<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if Tadrith would do it or not. He would not want to use torture, but he would see the need for getting the info from the prisoner ASAP. Guess I&#8217;ll have to see when he gets there.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarai</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8394</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first quest that came to my mind was the &quot;torture quest&quot; at Amber Ledge, where the Kirin Tor have you capture a mage and torture him to get information. Some of my characters would actually go ahead and do that. Arvoss, for example, would see it as a grim necessity. (ICly, he and Windstar did that part together. Arvoss did the torture, while Windstar waited outside. OOCly this didn&#039;t actually happen since we did the quest at different times.) Many of my Horde toons wouldn&#039;t be too squeamish either. My Alliance toons are a different story, mainly because most of them are druids (O_o). My Nelf death knight Barraccus would never do it, because he was tortured himself in the process of his becoming a death knight. So ICly for those characters, they never actually did the quest.

Shaurria has been IC almost the entire time I play her. She doesn&#039;t have much trouble with the &quot;Go out and kill X number of Y&quot; quests, because she does it in kitty form, and her kitty is almost a different personality than when she&#039;s an elf. When she&#039;s a cat, she&#039;s not killing so much as &quot;hunting&quot;, and cats hunt all the time, even when they don&#039;t need to (think of how many fat housecats you&#039;ve probably seen stalking birds in a yard somewhere). Also I&#039;ve leveled enough toons now that I know where the &quot;trouble&quot; quests are, and she just avoids those areas. I&#039;m not really sure what I&#039;ll do when she gets to Northrend. Guess I&#039;ll have to figure that out when it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first quest that came to my mind was the &#8220;torture quest&#8221; at Amber Ledge, where the Kirin Tor have you capture a mage and torture him to get information. Some of my characters would actually go ahead and do that. Arvoss, for example, would see it as a grim necessity. (ICly, he and Windstar did that part together. Arvoss did the torture, while Windstar waited outside. OOCly this didn&#8217;t actually happen since we did the quest at different times.) Many of my Horde toons wouldn&#8217;t be too squeamish either. My Alliance toons are a different story, mainly because most of them are druids (O_o). My Nelf death knight Barraccus would never do it, because he was tortured himself in the process of his becoming a death knight. So ICly for those characters, they never actually did the quest.</p>
<p>Shaurria has been IC almost the entire time I play her. She doesn&#8217;t have much trouble with the &#8220;Go out and kill X number of Y&#8221; quests, because she does it in kitty form, and her kitty is almost a different personality than when she&#8217;s an elf. When she&#8217;s a cat, she&#8217;s not killing so much as &#8220;hunting&#8221;, and cats hunt all the time, even when they don&#8217;t need to (think of how many fat housecats you&#8217;ve probably seen stalking birds in a yard somewhere). Also I&#8217;ve leveled enough toons now that I know where the &#8220;trouble&#8221; quests are, and she just avoids those areas. I&#8217;m not really sure what I&#8217;ll do when she gets to Northrend. Guess I&#8217;ll have to figure that out when it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Corise</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8384</link>
		<dc:creator>Corise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought -- it&#039;s also always possible that the quest isn&#039;t actually being presented to your character the way it is in the quest text. For example, I doubt that the warlocks under the Slaughtered Lamb would really try to offer my paladin the quest &quot;A Noble Brew&quot; without attempting to disguise their motives a bit... not only would she not accept a quest to poison a member of the House of Nobles, she&#039;d be calling the Stormwind Guard on them! I give NPCs a little credit for intelligence to play to their audience and employ deception as needed, just as certain quest-givers already do in game (good ol&#039; Abercrombie, for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought &#8212; it&#8217;s also always possible that the quest isn&#8217;t actually being presented to your character the way it is in the quest text. For example, I doubt that the warlocks under the Slaughtered Lamb would really try to offer my paladin the quest &#8220;A Noble Brew&#8221; without attempting to disguise their motives a bit&#8230; not only would she not accept a quest to poison a member of the House of Nobles, she&#8217;d be calling the Stormwind Guard on them! I give NPCs a little credit for intelligence to play to their audience and employ deception as needed, just as certain quest-givers already do in game (good ol&#8217; Abercrombie, for example).</p>
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		<title>By: Itanya Blade</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8383</link>
		<dc:creator>Itanya Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of times, I will substitute generic dude #1 for a named guy.  There is a dragonblight quest that has you go torture the torturer.  When I wrote it up and the way keltyr and Dorri played it was that they were just going after some generic scarlet.

Dorri kept killing them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of times, I will substitute generic dude #1 for a named guy.  There is a dragonblight quest that has you go torture the torturer.  When I wrote it up and the way keltyr and Dorri played it was that they were just going after some generic scarlet.</p>
<p>Dorri kept killing them</p>
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		<title>By: Corise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a slippery one for me that I tend to leave somewhat undefined. Yes, my characters have done many quests IC-ly; yes, they are soldiers in wars being fought on many fronts; yes, they&#039;ve spilled a lot of blood. However, I tend to believe that they&#039;ve all killed far fewer people than the game mechanics would suggest. I mean, in theory, Corise has killed almost four thousand humanoids -- and that&#039;s just since the achievement/statistic feature was implemented in game. If every character who quests IC-ly had really killed every mob that their avatar has killed in the course of questing, I imagine that there&#039;d hardly be any Dark Iron dwarves, or black dragons, or Defias, or goblins, or... whatever left on the face of Azeroth. (Scourge and demons, on the other hand, can probably always raise more dead or summon in more troops from other dimensions.) And, of course, in the case of named mobs... well, how many times has any given individual been killed?

So while I do tend to try to keep much of my questing IC, and I have turned down quests that felt just wrong for the character at hand, I don&#039;t hold to the exact details of a quest unless it&#039;s important for my character&#039;s RP. Maybe my character was one of several people working on a given quest -- sure, a dozen Scarlet Crusaders and their captain were killed, but maybe Karreth only took out a couple of them and created a diversion while a rogue snuck in to assassinate the named guy. So she&#039;s responsible for the outcome, but she didn&#039;t kill every single Scarlet Crusader in the encampment all by herself. Perhaps Lakena was sent as an advance scout on a particular mission and didn&#039;t actually do much killing, herself. Or maybe Yelgah stood back and healed while someone else rushed into battle and slewn encroaching waves of bad guys.

Also, I&#039;m definitely not 100% IC on every single quest. I&#039;ve taken quests that my characters probably wouldn&#039;t really do because I wanted the reward, or I was helping a friend, or -- somewhat mind-bendingly -- because a quest further along in the quest chain WAS very appropriate for my character&#039;s RP. When possible, I justify it as my character having found a way to deal with the situation that was more morally acceptable to him/her and still accomplished the necessary goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a slippery one for me that I tend to leave somewhat undefined. Yes, my characters have done many quests IC-ly; yes, they are soldiers in wars being fought on many fronts; yes, they&#8217;ve spilled a lot of blood. However, I tend to believe that they&#8217;ve all killed far fewer people than the game mechanics would suggest. I mean, in theory, Corise has killed almost four thousand humanoids &#8212; and that&#8217;s just since the achievement/statistic feature was implemented in game. If every character who quests IC-ly had really killed every mob that their avatar has killed in the course of questing, I imagine that there&#8217;d hardly be any Dark Iron dwarves, or black dragons, or Defias, or goblins, or&#8230; whatever left on the face of Azeroth. (Scourge and demons, on the other hand, can probably always raise more dead or summon in more troops from other dimensions.) And, of course, in the case of named mobs&#8230; well, how many times has any given individual been killed?</p>
<p>So while I do tend to try to keep much of my questing IC, and I have turned down quests that felt just wrong for the character at hand, I don&#8217;t hold to the exact details of a quest unless it&#8217;s important for my character&#8217;s RP. Maybe my character was one of several people working on a given quest &#8212; sure, a dozen Scarlet Crusaders and their captain were killed, but maybe Karreth only took out a couple of them and created a diversion while a rogue snuck in to assassinate the named guy. So she&#8217;s responsible for the outcome, but she didn&#8217;t kill every single Scarlet Crusader in the encampment all by herself. Perhaps Lakena was sent as an advance scout on a particular mission and didn&#8217;t actually do much killing, herself. Or maybe Yelgah stood back and healed while someone else rushed into battle and slewn encroaching waves of bad guys.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m definitely not 100% IC on every single quest. I&#8217;ve taken quests that my characters probably wouldn&#8217;t really do because I wanted the reward, or I was helping a friend, or &#8212; somewhat mind-bendingly &#8212; because a quest further along in the quest chain WAS very appropriate for my character&#8217;s RP. When possible, I justify it as my character having found a way to deal with the situation that was more morally acceptable to him/her and still accomplished the necessary goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Itanya Blade</title>
		<link>http://wttrp.com/2009/11/03/questing-ic-do-you-pick-and-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-8381</link>
		<dc:creator>Itanya Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that first part, Falconlady, is why I took a step back from the original post.  Because I didn&#039;t get my point across.  I wasn&#039;t trying to say that all quests apply to all characters, but that I didn&#039;t think any character could escape the realities of the world in which they live.

As for raid bosses, I think it&#039;s a matter of how you deal with it.  I know I treat those places as being constantly under siege.  We make forays into Ulduar, Naxx and the tourney.

If you catch the Prophecy of Light actually discussing current events, you&#039;ll hear them mocking the tourney and hating that it is keeping them from where the real war is at.  yet the go.  because that is what they were ordered to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that first part, Falconlady, is why I took a step back from the original post.  Because I didn&#8217;t get my point across.  I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that all quests apply to all characters, but that I didn&#8217;t think any character could escape the realities of the world in which they live.</p>
<p>As for raid bosses, I think it&#8217;s a matter of how you deal with it.  I know I treat those places as being constantly under siege.  We make forays into Ulduar, Naxx and the tourney.</p>
<p>If you catch the Prophecy of Light actually discussing current events, you&#8217;ll hear them mocking the tourney and hating that it is keeping them from where the real war is at.  yet the go.  because that is what they were ordered to do.</p>
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